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**Ibanez** · 04-07-09, 09:59

Aw, he was fun. I'm sad I missed him.

**The Javid** · 04-07-09, 13:52

I had a response written for "Fuck" last night while I was drunk and pissed after reading his posts. I would like to thank who ever deleted that as I said some pretty horrible things. For those who didn't read it, it was BAD!

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Originally Posted by Reborn

Q 2: Will any vehicles (like the chopper) or the military in general use dynamic spot lights in dark areas?

I imagine the chopper, tanks and apc's would not need a spot light since they have thermal imaging and night vision built into them. Also dismounted troops will have night vision in the dark areas. Knowing all of this I'd say the spotlight is pretty pointless.

**~~Bored~~** · 04-07-09, 15:07

Hey I just wanted to ask one question before I log out....

You said you would import the LD headcrab from HL2, but the zombies and their headcrabs look extremely HD. Was that just a render?

EDIT: Also, why did you choose not to make the marines have more realistic camouflage? Like this?

**bur** · 04-07-09, 15:43

Yes, the zombies are renders. The headcrabs don't look 'extremely HD' to me though.

How is the soldiers' camouflage not realistic?

**Kaze** · 04-07-09, 18:07

You're talking about realism in a game where resonance cascades occur and an untrained scientist runs around killing zombie aliens with gluon cannons.

**Angdraug** · 04-07-09, 18:35

For starters I would like to say, that to me the BM camo looks realistic and I fail to see why the fpsbanana version is supposed to be more realistic.

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Originally Posted by Kaze

You're talking about realism in a game where resonance cascades occur and an untrained scientist runs around killing zombie aliens with gluon cannons.

There is no reason why one shouldn't be able to ask for some realism even in a game with a fictional plot. Just because there are events in the game that couldn't happen (or perhaps just haven't happened yet

) does not make every claim on realism null and void.

Objects that are based on a real life counterparts should look and work like they do in the real world. You might be happy if the glock would be a laser gun, the shotgun would work like bazooka and the fighter planes would be replaced by flying tanks just because resonance cascades occur and an untrained scientist runs around killing zombie aliens with gluon cannons, but I'm sure most of us wouldn't be.

And just so you know, Gordon is not untrained scientist. He has been extensively trained in the Hazard Course.

**Maxaxle** · 04-07-09, 18:43

FPSBanana's skins PHAIL. AFAIK (and I'm completely unsure about this), your armor should be camouflaged somehow (such as just having an extra camo-shirt over it), and camo is useless if your 'pack is completely different. Also, why would you have black-and-white camo when you're in a desert?

**Angdraug** · 04-07-09, 18:58

I think its pretty obvious why they have black and white camo. That's how it was in the HL1.

While camouflaging the vest would be realistic, it wouldn't look nearly as good in the game. Hence why it isn't camouflaged.

**Kaze** · 04-07-09, 20:03

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Originally Posted by Angdraug

For starters I would like to say, that to me the BM camo looks realistic and I fail to see why the fpsbanana version is supposed to be more realistic.

There is no reason why one shouldn't be able to ask for some realism even in a game with a fictional plot. Just because there are events in the game that couldn't happen (or perhaps just haven't happened yet

) does not make every claim on realism null and void.

Objects that are based on a real life counterparts should look and work like they do in the real world. You might be happy if the glock would be a laser gun, the shotgun would work like bazooka and the fighter planes would be replaced by flying tanks just because resonance cascades occur and an untrained scientist runs around killing zombie aliens with gluon cannons, but I'm sure most of us wouldn't be.

And just so you know, Gordon is not untrained scientist. He has been extensively trained in the Hazard Course.

The HECU or any of their wearable gear have no actual real life counterpart. They are fictional as well.

**Angdraug** · 04-07-09, 20:23

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Originally Posted by Kaze

The HECU or any of their wearable gear have no actual real life counterpart. They are fictional as well.

I'm fairly confident that a camouflage suit has a real life counterpart.

But that's not the point. It seems, that no matter what is really asked, when the word realism is mentioned, someone always comments that it is a fictional game and implying that there is no place for any realism in the game.

**Brother Shrike** · 04-07-09, 21:59

But will it improve gameplay in any way? Of course not.

**OldDirtyBastard** · 04-07-09, 22:00

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I'm fairly confident that a camouflage suit has a real life counterpart.

Because black and white camouflages are really practical

**~~Comrade Tiki~~** · 04-07-09, 22:32

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Originally Posted by OldDirtyBastard

...You were saying?

**OldDirtyBastard** · 04-07-09, 22:41

yeah, ships are obviously relevant to the subject
A little excerpt from the article:

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Dazzle did not conceal the ship but made it difficult for the enemy to estimate its speed and heading. The idea was to disrupt the visual rangefinders used for naval artillery

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Dazzle's effectiveness is not certain. The British Admiralty concluded it had no effect on submarine attacks, but proved to be a morale boost for crews. It also increased the morale of people not involved in fighting; hundreds of wonderfully coloured ships in dock was nothing ever seen before or since

And dazzle does not obviously mean it's black and white, either.

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In the UK, the British Army introduced its Camouflage Section at the end of 1916: while at sea, the marine painter Norman Wilkinson invented the concept of “dazzle painting” — a way of using stripes and disrupted lines to confuse the enemy about the speed and dimensions of a ship

**ZaN** · 05-07-09, 00:04

i would like to work my ass off in this mod, i have nothing else to do for the rest of my life anyway :s

**Imonfire** · 05-07-09, 00:24

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Originally Posted by ZaN

i would like to work my ass off in this mod, i have nothing else to do for the rest of my life anyway :s

You want something to do? Go outside, play football, try to do a backflip, dig a hole, eat a potato, try not to think about penguins, drink a tea...

Possibilities are endless.

**The Javid** · 05-07-09, 00:58

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Originally Posted by Maxaxle

FPSBanana's skins PHAIL. AFAIK (and I'm completely unsure about this), your armor should be camouflaged somehow (such as just having an extra camo-shirt over it), and camo is useless if your 'pack is completely different. Also, why would you have black-and-white camo when you're in a desert?

Uh if you wear another camo shirt over your vest how do you reach the ammo or any other gear you are carring on that vest for that matter?

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Originally Posted by Kaze

The HECU or any of their wearable gear have no actual real life counterpart. They are fictional as well.

http://www.cryeprecision.com/default.aspx
The camoflauge pattern is different but look at the body armor and their combat pants and shirts and tell me they don't bear a striking resemblence to the ones worn by the HECU in black mesa.

Edit: they have made alterations to thier body armor, so just the combat pants and combat shirt are identical.

**OldDirtyBastard** · 05-07-09, 03:06

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You want something to do? Go outside, play football, try to do a backflip, dig a hole, eat a potato, try not to think about penguins, drink a tea...

Or perhaps try different types of suicide. Who know's maybe you're fucking Rasputin

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Originally Posted by The Javid

http://www.cryeprecision.com/default.aspx
The camoflauge pattern is different but look at the body armor and their combat pants and shirts and tell me they don't bear a striking resemblence to the ones worn by the HECU in black mesa.

Edit: they have made alterations to thier body armor, so just the combat pants and combat shirt are identical.

i think he meant black-n-white camo pattern

The pictures on the site - it's just black-n-white photos.

**The Javid** · 05-07-09, 03:59

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Originally Posted by OldDirtyBastard

i think he meant black-n-white camo pattern

The pictures on the site - it's just black-n-white photos.

http://dropzonearmynavy.com/urbanarmypants.html

**Deathmonkey7** · 05-07-09, 05:46

Holy shit guys, it's called urban camo. It's real, and makes lots of sense if you're going to invade an urban setting such as, say.. a science facility.

Have you not heard of it?

04-07-09, 15:07	#1083
~~Bored~~ Banned Join Date: 4th July, 2009 Posts: 1	Hey I just wanted to ask one question before I log out.... You said you would import the LD headcrab from HL2, but the zombies and their headcrabs look extremely HD. Was that just a render? EDIT: Also, why did you choose not to make the marines have more realistic camouflage? Like this? Last edited by Bored; 04-07-09 at 15:31..

04-07-09, 09:59	#1081
Ibanez Vortigaunt Join Date: 19th May, 2009 Posts: 1,253	Aw, he was fun. I'm sad I missed him.

04-07-09, 15:43	#1084
bur Alien Grunt Join Date: 2nd May, 2009 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,744	Yes, the zombies are renders. The headcrabs don't look 'extremely HD' to me though. How is the soldiers' camouflage not realistic?

04-07-09, 18:07	#1085
Kaze Headcrab Join Date: 2nd May, 2009 Location: :noitacoL Posts: 164	You're talking about realism in a game where resonance cascades occur and an untrained scientist runs around killing zombie aliens with gluon cannons.

04-07-09, 18:43	#1087
Maxaxle Headcrab Join Date: 14th May, 2009 Posts: 122	FPSBanana's skins PHAIL. AFAIK (and I'm completely unsure about this), your armor should be camouflaged somehow (such as just having an extra camo-shirt over it), and camo is useless if your 'pack is completely different. Also, why would you have black-and-white camo when you're in a desert?

04-07-09, 18:58	#1088
Angdraug Headcrab Join Date: 4th May, 2009 Posts: 205	I think its pretty obvious why they have black and white camo. That's how it was in the HL1. While camouflaging the vest would be realistic, it wouldn't look nearly as good in the game. Hence why it isn't camouflaged.

04-07-09, 21:59	#1091
Brother Shrike Vortigaunt Join Date: 2nd May, 2009 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 1,476	But will it improve gameplay in any way? Of course not.

05-07-09, 00:04	#1095
ZaN Cockroach Join Date: 4th July, 2009 Posts: 1	i would like to work my ass off in this mod, i have nothing else to do for the rest of my life anyway :s

05-07-09, 05:46	#1100
Deathmonkey7 Vortigaunt Join Date: 22nd June, 2009 Location: South Point, Ohio Posts: 1,892	Holy shit guys, it's called urban camo. It's real, and makes lots of sense if you're going to invade an urban setting such as, say.. a science facility. Have you not heard of it?

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